The Uk now just like Russia?

Started by Joe1993, Aug 07, 2024, 10:32 AM

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Joe1993

Hey everyone, I can't be the only one who's seriously worried about the direction our country is taking.

After the tragic terror attack in Southport, we've seen hundreds of people being arrested for participating in the anti-immigration protests. But what's even more disturbing is the government's decision to crack down on people who weren't even at the protests!

We now have these draconian public order acts and terror laws that essentially make it a criminal offense just to "stir up" trouble or spread so-called "false information" that could cause people to riot. This is so subjective. What does "stir up" even mean? And why should someone be responsible for other people's actions? It's like we're living in a totalitarian state where any form of dissent can be crushed under the guise of maintaining public order.

Over the years, the government has sneakily added all sorts of dodgy things to these laws, slowly eroding our freedoms. These measures are reminiscent of what you'd see in authoritarian regimes like Russia or China. It's anti-democratic and downright dangerous. What do you all think about this? Are we slipping into far-left fascism? 😡

Ricardo

Yup! It's terrifying to think that simply expressing a controversial opinion could land you in jail. This is exactly the kind of thing we criticize other countries for, yet here we are, doing the same thing. We need to wake up before it's too late! 👎

Ian

If they can arrest people for "stirring up trouble," what's stopping them from going after anyone who criticizes their policies in any way? This isn't just about public safety; it's about control.

ToughNut

There's no denying the need for security, but these laws go too far. They're using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Instead of targeting actual criminals, they're casting a wide net that catches everyone, including innocent people. It's lazy governance and an abuse of power. We should be focusing on intelligence and precise actions against real threats, not broad strokes that infringe on our freedoms.

Bill90

This is what happens when you give the government too much power. They start to see enemies everywhere. We're heading towards a nanny state where Big Brother watches your every move. And it's not just about protests. Today it's anti-immigration rallies, tomorrow it could be any form of political dissent. We need to stand up for our rights now, before it's too late.

Jack

Let's also not forget the role of the media in all this. They sensationalize everything, making it seem like the world is on fire. This creates a climate of fear that the government can exploit to justify these laws. We need responsible journalism that focuses on facts, not fear-mongering. And we, as citizens, need to stay informed and push back against these overreaches.

Joe1993

Quote from: Jack on Aug 07, 2024, 10:37 AMLet's also not forget the role of the media in all this. They sensationalize everything, making it seem like the world is on fire. This creates a climate of fear that the government can exploit to justify these laws. We need responsible journalism that focuses on facts, not fear-mongering. And we, as citizens, need to stay informed and push back against these overreaches.

True that, Jack. Media has a lot to answer for. They feed into the hysteria, and before you know it, the government's got all the justification it needs to clamp down on our freedoms.

tech_wiz

Ugh, don't even get me started. This is absolutely nuts. It's like they're using any excuse to tighten their grip on us. What's next? Arresting people for having an opinion that doesn't align with theirs? "Stirring up trouble" is so subjective. Who decides what that even means? 🤔

Dom

First, they label us as "extremists" for having different views on immigration, and now they're arresting folks for protesting? What's next? This is something out of Stalin's playbook. It's Orwellian. How can they justify this kind of crackdown? It's sickening. 😤

Joe1993

Quote from: Dom on Aug 07, 2024, 10:41 AMFirst, they label us as "extremists" for having different views on immigration, and now they're arresting folks for protesting? What's next? This is something out of Stalin's playbook. It's Orwellian. How can they justify this kind of crackdown? It's sickening. 😤

It's the classic divide and conquer strategy. By labeling us as extremists, they make it easier to justify these outrageous laws. It's a subtle way of dividing the public and making them fear us. That way, they can pass even more restrictive laws without much opposition. It's really scary how easily people are falling for it. 😰

Dom

Quote from: Joe1993 on Aug 07, 2024, 10:42 AM
Quote from: Dom on Aug 07, 2024, 10:41 AMFirst, they label us as "extremists" for having different views on immigration, and now they're arresting folks for protesting? What's next? This is something out of Stalin's playbook. It's Orwellian. How can they justify this kind of crackdown? It's sickening. 😤

It's the classic divide and conquer strategy. By labeling us as extremists, they make it easier to justify these outrageous laws. It's a subtle way of dividing the public and making them fear us. That way, they can pass even more restrictive laws without much opposition. It's really scary how easily people are falling for it. 😰

I know right! The scary part is how effective it is. People are so quick to believe whatever the government tells them. They don't question it. It's like they're sleepwalking into a dictatorship. We need to be vigilant and keep fighting against these insane laws. If we don't, we'll lose what little freedom we have left. Stay strong, everyone. 💪